Let’s blame the prosecution: On commerical liberals’ reaction to Malik Ishaq’s release

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Shahid Saeed, a PMA graduate, is currently under training by urban fake liberals of Pakistan

Note: For background reading, please read these articles:
Thank you, ISI-backed Supreme Court, for releasing Malik Ishaq

Malik Ishaq wielded clout in jail; helped Pak army

Archive on ‘Prosecution & Conviction & Acquittal of Militants’

Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the “lack of evidence” -By Harris Bin Munawar

First the sorrow, now the fear

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It was quite educating (but not surprising) to see Pakistan’s commerical liberal elite (also known as fake or darbari liberals) reaction to the release of Malik Ishaq by the pro-Takfiri ASWJ-TTP, pro-PMLN Supreme Court of Pakistan. Instead of blaming the pro-Deobandi establishment, the PMLN and the judges, these commercial liberals found it convenient to blame the police and the prosecution for the release of the Sipah-e-Sahaba ASWJ-LeJ terrorist Malik Ishaq. At least four Deobandi liberals, namely  Shahid Saeed, Samad Khurram, Ayesha Tammy Haq and Mehmal Sarfraz, were seen on Twitter blaming poor prosecution.

Pakistani tweeple and blogger Shahid Saeed is a graduate of Pakistan Military Academy Kakool. Here is my open letter to him which offers an exemplar of my response to Pakistani urban liberals’ reaction to Malik Ishaq’s release.

TwitPost: An Open Letter to @shahidsaeed
—————————————————-

Introduction:

Sir, I am an avid reader of your posts and tweets on Pakistan politics. I hope you will take my criticism in this TwitPost in a constructive manner. I don’t mean any personal offence to you.

I have always noticed your “harsh on politicians, soft on GHQ stance” which is amply documented elsewhere.

I also notice that you operate in a tight network of ex-cadets and soldiers (including yourself), urban elite and their middle class aspirants.

The following few lines may help you reconsider your position and stance on certain issues.

Please read these tweets from bottom to top. Then read the Dawn article.

…….

Tweets:

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@cpyala @tammyhaq @kaalakawaa @shahidsaeed What witness & what prosecution when State (ISI) creates & protects SSP terrorists! is it a joke?
14 Jul

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
Well, Mr @shahidsaeed instead of blaming the police “pathetic investigation”, discover some honesty… and blame ISI-SCP. Shame!

shaista_azar Shaista Azar
@Mehmal An apologist to judiciary @Shahidsaeed came with same arguments when#Mukhtaran rapists were acquitted

Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
@JunaidGhumman yeah right. Read @shahidsaeed‘s tweet. He’s not innocent. The prosecution didn’t do their job
14 Jul Favorite Retweet Reply

tammyhaq Ayesha Tammy Haq
@SamadK @shahidsaeed @Ali_Abbas_Zaidi if you don’t prosecute them they will walk free, prosecution is states job. State not interested?
14 Jul

kursed Abdullah Saad
Twitter logic; Judge=Prosecution. RT @shahidsaeed Evidence in SL team case against Ishaq so filmsy, hardened judge would have acquitted him.

shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
Evidence in SL team case against Ishaq was so filmsy, even hardened judge would have acquitted him. pathetic investigation

……….

Dawn article:

“it is very surprising that one of the Supreme Court judges who released Malik Ishaq on bail last week scolded the prosecution and said the case was weak. The same judge, Justice Asif Saeed Khosa, was part of a Lahore Hight Court bench that had asked the police to close down cases of hate speech and incitement to violence, against Jamaatud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed. The bench would simply not accept that Jamaatud Dawa was another name for Lashkar-e-Taiba, because the new name was not present on a certain list.”

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/19/lashkar-e-jhangvi-and-the-lack-of-evidence.html

Conclusion:

There are still some people who don’t want to name and shame the pro-Deobandi establishment (within agencies, judiciary, PMLN etc) as accomplices in continued massacres of the Shia, Sunni Sufi/Barelvi, Balochs etc in Pakistan. Instead, they blame poor prosecution. They must reconsider their stance.

Written by: @laibaah

15 Responses to “Let’s blame the prosecution: On commerical liberals’ reaction to Malik Ishaq’s release”

  1. From the first page of this blog; when it launched:

    https://pakistanblogzine.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/no-minority-rights-in-pakistan-%e2%80%94by-shahid-saeed/

    You basically lifted the work of the man who you try to smear.

    May you tame the demons that haunt your mind.

    Good day to you ma’am.

  2. @Person Apparently you are into absolutism. If an article by Shahid was published on this blogzine, does that suggest we have to agree with all of his opinions and positions. What kind of logic is that? Shahid is just an exemplar. The aim was to question the whole urban liberal class which blames prosecution not ISI and SCP, the real culprits. Demons don’t haunt us, they haunt those who don’t want to be questioned!

  3. Here is another critical analysis of the same urban liberal (under training) writer Shahid Saeed: Fake criticism of Pakistan army http://criticalppp.com/archives/48156

  4. If you think it’s just the bloody ISI peddling sectarian terrorists, and their evil, stupid backed judges are the “cause” of sectarianism in this country, or of sectarian madmen, let me explain it in simple slogans so that you can understand the extent of the problem you are facing.

    You know how they say “How many Bhuttos will you kill? A Bhutto will appear frm evry house”.

    Understand that there is a Mumtaz Qadri on every street corner.

    Replacing a handful of judges, sacking a few idiot generals (who also are targeted by these morons) will not solve your problem for you. It will be solved when you deal with the Mumtaz Qadri’s on every corner. How many Malik Ishaq’s can we jail, when there’s a Qadri ready to take their place?

    Attacking individual bloggers at random, rather than dealing with the disease of sectarianism in a bigotted society, will not solve your underlying problem of more Ishaq’s and more Qadri’s that are always ready to go.

  5. @Person You came with yet another apology for the ISI? You are unable to acknowledge that the whole Jihad Enterprise of Pakistan army, courtesy Saudi money and ISI’s machinery, is involved in creating bigoted and sectarian footsoldiers for jihad in Afghanistan, Kashmir and elsewhere. The LeT/JuD, Haaqani network, TTP, JeM, Deobandi and Wahhabi madrassahs across Pakistan, brainwashing of masses through Islamofascit media and curriculum, all of these are a product of the Jihad Enterprise.

    http://criticalppp.com/archives/33078

    Ask a Toori in Kurram, a Baloch or Hazara in Quetta or a Saraiki in D.I.Khan, they will tell you how Pakistan army institutionally supports jihadi and sectarian monsters.

    The disease of sectarianism in Pakistan is as non-existent as it is in India and elsewhere. The target killing of Shias and other groups is a natural outcome of the Jihad Enterprise which I don’t expect you to understand.

  6. You seem to be an agent provocateur who fails to understand that the entire state of Pakistan is rotten, not just few ISI generals as you claim. The society, the people are all radicalized like their fellow Muslims elsewhere.

    Trying to pin the blame on one three letter agency is simply a game being played in order to save Pakistan. Your Pakistan is doomed and will die at the hands of Pukhtuns, Balochs and Sindhis. And you will and people like you will die with it.

  7. What else we can expect from children of those whose fathers were serving in army under the leadership of General Zia-ul-Haq:

    hafsaq
    @shahidsaeed my father has a whole bunch of tafsirs etc written by Maududi that were distributed among officers during Zia era

    shahidsaeed
    @hafsaq hmmm. my dad was flying zia. got no tafseer. maybe enthusiastic div commander or CO

    hafsaq
    @shahidsaeed i thought same books were distributed at all officers cuz i’ve seen similar collections

    shahidsaeed
    not that i cant be wrong on this count. mebe he did order distribution of literature. i stand by earlier analysis though

    hafsaq
    @shahidsaeed so zia didn’t any attempts to revamp the fauj & was afghan jahad’s aftermath?

    hafsaq
    @shahidsaeed when my father joined army, alcohol was allowed in mess 7 services club. A lot of things changed w zia

    shahidsaeed
    @hafsaq alcohol was banned in field mess’ after 65 TMI. Mess bars were closed around 74 (TMI too). Ppl told to drink outside

  8. This tweet on 29 August 2011 to Ayesha Tammy Haq by Sara Taseer (Proud daughter of Shaheed Salmaan Taseer):

    sarataseer Sara Taseer Shoaib
    @tammyhaq What on earth is going on..cant believe u r cracking jokes in the midst of this grave & hideous situation re Shahbaz Taseer
    29 Aug

  9. marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    “PTI will implement Sharia Law as soon as it comes to power” Imran Khan twitpic.com/79gznz v @mSaleemJaved @ImranKhanPTI #PTI

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved sorry don’t have to go down slippery slope & accuse of everything nasty. current govt did swat sharia bill remb?

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved and I would appreciate any response not be ‘in swat only’, ‘was for deceiving taliban’, ‘countrywide is diff’ 🙂

    aliarqam aliarqam
    @
    @shahidsaeed Dont tell me that you don’t know who was stressing to have a peace deal with them @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @
    @aliarqam @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved doesn’t justify anything. Anyways, I think the highlighting prayer pic is a cheapshot.

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam criticism should be above highlighting his hands while praying

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed My eyes were caught on the accompanying news item then the position of his hands actually! @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam if it hit me in a way that highlighting hands while praying is cheap, then yes
    21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam haha now it hit my sensibilities? come on. be better than this. i said this is cheap criticism
    22 minutes ago

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam qazi courts are qazi courts
    23 minutes ago

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam only thing: slipper slopes here. keeping clean is important if politics is to be progressive
    24 minutes ago

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam anyways, i’d rather end it here than argue over semantics and confuse more stuff
    25 minutes ago

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @
    @marvisirmed uff @aliarqam said you know who was stressing deal @mSaleemJaved
    25 minutes ago

    shahidsaeed Shahid Saeed
    @marvisirmed @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam that the nizam-e-adl regulations came from mil doesn’t justify overseeing their imposition

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed That’s what I’m saying! Your ‘cheap’ is pretty much in your eyes & mind. I didn’t even notice it! @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    22 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed It hit you so you said it! Isn’t it simple? Not saying you are supporting Imran Khan here. @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    23 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed Please read the modalities of Nizam-e-Adal and then compare it what Swat had prior to 1979 @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    24 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed I wish it was just ‘semantics’. Both are ENTIRELY different concepts and carry different impacts @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    24 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed Don’t know where did it hit your sensibilities, but ye, seems it did badly @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    25 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed Not sure what you mean by ‘keeping clean’. It was a news item propped by a picture @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    25 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed So, is it safe to say that you didn’t think about diff. between Nizam-e-Adal and implementing sharia @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    26 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed Now I’m vehemently finding my tweet that talked of military! @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    27 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    Nops. Youth is too ‘intelligent’ to ask these ‘naive’ questions! RT @iamthedrifter @aliarqam @JunaidQaiser can someone ask him which sharia?
    28 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed ummm justifying? How and when anyone ‘justify’ anything? I thought you know the difference @aliarqam @mSaleemJaved
    29 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @rizwanjanjua True. Menace has to be feared. And an engineered menace, twice more fearsome! @ImranKhanPTI
    29 minutes ago

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed My eyes were caught on the accompanying news item then the position of his hands actually! @mSaleemJaved @aliarqam
    30 minutes ago
    »

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    @
    @shahidsaeed And I hope, here we are not confusing ‘Nizam-e-Adal Agreement’ with “nifaaz-e-shariat’? Or are we? @mSaleemJaved
    32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    Sexy Islamism doesn’t take away your chic life style, yet gives you piety MT @ijazkhan:@ImranKhanPTI.. ‘sexy Islamism’ … says quite a lot

    marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed
    Actually, Imran Khan @ImranKhanPTI represents myopic mentality of Zaid Hamid by reinforcing ‘sexy Islamism’ twitpic.com/79gznz

  10. One-hour protest: Group formerly known as ‘Sipah-e-Sahaba’ issues warnings over activist killings
    Published: November 5, 2011

    A crowd of at least 400 people had amassed on the street outside the press club. PHOTO: AGENCIES
    KARACHI: The white Hiluxes that rolled into the Karachi Press Club on Friday afternoon could easily be mistaken for those of government officials. At least two police officers were seated at the back of each car, along with gun-toting private guards in flak jackets.
    Their occupants were not, however, government VIPs but the leaders of the Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaat (ASWJ), formerly known as the Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) that was banned in 2002.
    ASWJ’s chief in Karachi, Maulana Aurangzeb Farooqui, stepped out of one vehicle, only to be mobbed by activists who stepped up to shake his hand and take photographs courtesy cell phone cameras.
    One activist couldn’t help but marvel to a friend. Referring to one of the ASWJ speakers, he murmured, “Fayyaz bhai used to have one police guard. Now he has three!”
    By the end of the one-hour protest against the recent murders of seven activists, a crowd of at least 400 people had amassed on the street outside the press club.
    Amid calls proclaiming another sect as apostates, the ASWJ leaders expressed outrage at the deaths of its seven men, including a division in-charge, and asked that the chief justice of the Supreme Court take notice of what it said was a resurgence in target killings.
    One of the leaders to speak, Dr Fayyaz, declared over the microphone: “We will continue with the mission of Haq Nawaz Jhangvi.” He was referring to the organisation’s late founder.
    Maulana Aurangzeb Farooqui added that they would continue to protest the deaths of their activists until the government takes action. The ASWJ blames Iran and a number of members of the National Assembly for the deaths, and has called for them to be investigated as well. But in a direct challenge to the government and other sects, Farooqui said that the ASWJ “could not be expected to maintain peace during Muharram and would stage a sit-in at MA Jinnah Road on Ashura if the government does not find and identify the killers.” Dr Fayyaz pitched in to warn that the ASWJ or the government would not be able to control their activists if they decided to take action themselves.
    As the speeches ended, Farooqui asked attendees to wrap up their flags and leave quietly, and not to wave them on the way or shout slogans. The police guards hopped back into the vehicles, and amid a crush of cell phone wielding men, the ASWJ leaders left the venue.
    The jamaat managed to attract a sizeable crowd within minutes on Friday. At 3 pm, the designated hour, it started with only one man holding a small cardboard sign – proclaiming outrage at the death of a fellow member of the SSP. At that point he could hardly be seen amid the traffic passing outside the press club. But then, within minutes, he was joined by men aged between 20 and 30 years. One of them screeched in on a motorcycle, waving an ASWJ flag. They hugged, gossiped among themselves, and shouted slogans in unison during speeches. As the protest wrapped up, they said their goodbyes and drove off, warmd up for the protests that the party has announced it will organise after Eid.
    Published in The Express Tribune, November 5th, 2011.
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    Reader Comments (8)
    ALL COMMENTSREADER’S RECOMMENDATIONS
    Amazed
    17 hours ago
    Reply
    So the SSP, with all the patronization of the state, has decided to take on the Moharram processions this year.
    Recommend6

    AJ
    13 hours ago
    Reply
    I hope everything stays well on Moharram or else ASWJ (formerly known as SSP) would have to banned again and they would have to choose another name.
    Recommend3

    Stranger
    13 hours ago
    Reply
    So what is the mission of JHANGVI? what is the mission which they will carry out?
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    Stranger
    13 hours ago
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    So what is the mission of JHANGVI? what is the mission which they will carry out?
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    khurram mansoor
    12 hours ago
    Reply
    “One activist couldn’t help but marvel to a friend. Referring to one of the ASWJ speakers, he murmured, “Fayyaz bhai used to have one police guard. Now he has three!””
    LOL at Tribune’s poor take, the reporters were there noting the mimicking of on goers.
    Totaly funny.
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    AH
    9 hours ago
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    If this organisation was banned then how come it so openly holds a 400-person rally? and how come government has provided them police protection?
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    abbas
    6 hours ago
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    Mission of Jhangvi is obvious kill as many innocent as u can on the basis of sectarian bias.
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    bigsaf
    4 hours ago
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    Pakistan’s Klu Klux Klan…instead of being detained for threatening violence (ironically after complaining their activists were killed), they get state protection.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/287906/one-hour-protest-group-formerly-known-as-sipah-e-sahaba-issues-warnings-over-activist-killings/

  11. SC dismisses review plea against Malik Ishaq’s bail
    Published: November 11, 2011

    Ishaq was granted and released on bail on July 11, 2011 after having spent 14 years in jail since 1997.
    LAHORE: The Supreme Court (SC), on Friday, dismissed a review petition against bail granted to Malik Ishaq, former head of banned organisation, Lashkar-i-Jhangvi, accused of plotting the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in 2009.
    A two-member bench of the SC comprising Justice Tasadduq Hussain Jilani and Justice Asif Saeed Khosa held proceedings at the SC’s Lahore registry on a petition filed by the Punjab government against the bail granted to Ishaq on July 11, 2011 after spending 14 years in jail since 1997.
    (Read: Court releases terror kingpin, alleged killer of 70)
    The bench held that that bail had been granted to the accused on merit and could not be withdrawn. Friday was the first date of hearing of the petition and it was dismissed without even a notice being issued to the respondent.
    The Punjab government, through the Prosecution Department, submitted that the SC while granting bail to Ishaq had observed that ‘there is no admissible legal evidence’ which proved his involvement in the attack. It said this observation of the SC would influence the trial against the accused. It prayed that the court rectify its observation, the appropriate way for which was to cancel his bail. However the court, dismissed the petition and observed that the SC observations would not influence the trial court.
    The SC had accepted Ishaq’s bail petition after it was rejected by Lahore High Court. He is accused of plotting the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team while he was in prison. Malik has so far been accused of 44 murders. He has been acquitted of the charges in 34 cases while bail has been granted in the remaining 10 cases.
    Published in The Express Tribune, November 12th, 2011.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/290288/supreme-court-dismisses-malik-ishaq-bail-review-petition/

  12. NadeemfParacha Nadeem F. Paracha
    Pak law 101: You need ‘evidence’ to sentence a known hate-monger, but a sleaze bag to implicate an elected government.

  13. In defece of Deobandi Sipah-e-Sahaba ASWJ – by Shahid Saeed – See more at: http://lubpak.com/archives/321236#sthash.Cq7QZ5O8.dpuf

  14. کالعدم تکفیری خارجی دہشتگرد گروہ انجمن سپاہ صحابہ اور لشکر جھنگوی کے خلاف “عدم ثبوت” کے عذر کی حقیقت:
    کالعدم دہشتگرد گروہ انجمن سپاہ صحابہ کے سرغنہ ملک اسحق نے 2007 مین ایک اردو روزنامہ کو انٹرویو دیتے ہوئے اعتراف کیا تھا کہ اس جھنمی کتے نے اپنے ہاتھوں سے 102 افراد کو قتل کیا ہے۔ 2007 میں ہی اس جانور کو گرفتار کر لیا گیا اور 70 سے زائد افراد کے قتل میں 44 کیسز میں اس پر مقدمات چلائے گئے۔ دوران قید نہ صرف یہ کہ جیل میں اس دہشتگرد کو موبائل فون استعمال کرنے کی آزادی رہی بلکہ ان دہشتگرد تنظیموں کی سرپرست پنجاب حکومت اس دہشتگرد کو وظیفہ بھی دیتی رہی۔
    1997 میں ایک مجلس کے دوران 12 شیعہ مسلمانوں کے قتل عام کے جرم میں چلنے والے ایک مقدمہ کے مرکزی گواہ فدا حسین نے جب کمرہ عدالت میں دیگر گواہوں کے ساتھ 12 افراد کے قتل کے اس مجرم کو شناخت کیا تو اس جہنمی کتے نے عدالت میں دھمکی دیتے ہوئے کہا کہ “جو مر جائیں وہ بول نہیں سکتے” مقدمہ کے 5 گواہوں کو ان کے 3 رشتہ داروں سمیت قتل کر دیا گیا اور یہ جہنمی کتا “عدم ثبوت” کی بنا پر بری کر دیا گیا۔
    اسی طرح 1997 میں ہی ملتان میں واقع خانہ فرھنگ ایران پر ہونے والے دہشتگرد حملے میں 8 افراد کو قتل کر دیا گیا۔ اس حملے کا مرکزی مجرم یہی دہشتگرد تھا۔ جب کیس کے تفتیشی افسر اعجاز شفیع نے مقدمہ کے دو عینی شاہدوں کو کورٹ میں گواہی کے لیئے حاضر ہونے پر تیار کیا تو اس پولیس افسر کی گاڑی پر 13 گولیاں فائر کی گئیں۔ انسداد دہشتگردی کی عدالت کے جج بشیر احمد بھٹی نے ملک اسحق کو سزا سنائی لیکن عدلت عظمی نے “عدم ثبوت” کی بنیاد پر رہا کر دیا۔ مارچ 2007 میں جب یہی جج، بشیر احمد بھٹی، اس جہنمی کتے کے خلاف ایک اور کیس کی سماعت کے لیئے کورٹ جا رہے تھے تو راستے میں ان کی گاڑی ریموٹ کنٹرول بم سے حملہ کیا گیا۔ اس حملے میں ان کے ڈرائیور سمیت 2 پولیس اہلکار بھی جاں بحق ہو گئے جبکہ ملک اسحق کو “عدم ثبوت” کی بنیاد پر بری کر دیا گیا۔
    http://www.dawn.com/…/lashkar-e-jhangvi-and-the-lack-of…

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