Cafe Pyala or Cafe Altaf?

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Context: Cafe Pyala @cpyala is commonly known as among MQM propagandists along with @FiveRupees @Mirza9 @akchishti @theselongwars @tazeen @uroojzia etc

@cpyala is a “media critic” blog which has never written on Pakistani media’s silence (or misrepresentations) on Shia Hazara genocide, Baloch genocide and Kurram blockade

It is the same blog which wholeheartedly supported ISI’s (@ejazhaider etc) criticism on AatishTaseer’s piece in WSJ

@cpyala is same blog which blames prosecution and police for the release of Malik Ishaq and other terrorists by ISI-backed CJP

It is the same blog which dishonestly promoted a defamatory and sectarian video against Aamir Liaquat Hussain, which was manufactured by none else but Samad Khurram and Ghulam Mustafa, co-manager of pkpolitics with the help of a Geo TV insider.

@cpyala is the same blog which speculates on everything under the sun but refused to comment on Wali Khan Babar’s murder.

In this post, I will offer some comments on Cafe Pyala’s (@cpyala) latest post on Zulfiqar Mirza’s press conference.

Key issues in @cpyala’s latest post on ZulfiqarMirza’s press conference:

1. It discounts ZM’s important charges against MQM & terrorism

2. @cpyala creates a false equation between MQM’s systematic & massive violence with reactionary and minuscule violence by ANP, PPP etc

3. Contrary to @cpyala’s claim, Ajmal Pahari’s and other videos of MQM terrorists are online for many months now. Also fascimiles of reports

4. @cpyala writes: “without trying to sound like I am defending the indefensible”, they are doing the exact opposite, i.e. defending MQM.

5. @cpyala has never written on Baloch or Hazara genocides, still they attack another website 4 presenting “a selective version of truth”

6. Next comes @cpyala’s most frequent tactic, i.e. blame the prosecution, challenge the legality of charges against terrorists.

7. Acc 2 @cpyala, Ajmal Pahari and other videos/reports, “these documents and confessions do not necessarily establish guilt.” Wow!

8. Acc to @cpyala, Ajmal Pahari’s confessions are not much different from NAB’s accusations of corruption against Mr Asif Zardari. Shame!

9. @cpyala asks: “why have these terrorists not yet been prosecuted in the courts of law”. Your heroes in judiciary r releasing terrorists!

10. @cpyala finally reveal their true loyalties by stating that ZM’s presser was aimed to divert attention from “torture cells in Lyari”

Finally, one last comment about Wali Khan Babar, the Geo reporter who was killed by MQM’s target killers. Here’s a comment from Cafe Pyala’s website:

Here is an interesteng comment from an old post on cafe pyala:

Dear Café Pyala

In your lame excuse for not commenting on the murder of journalist Wali Khan Babar in Karachi, you say: “….unlike some, we do not feel we have unambiguous knowledge about who assassinated him and so refuse to be drawn into a blame game based on pure speculation”.
Have you always commented on a murder when you have “unambiguous knowledge” about who murdered him/her?
You simply had to say the same things just after the murder of Mr Babar what you have said now: “We feel we have lost a very bright and upright colleague and a warm-hearted human being………. And we deeply mourn his death. All we can say is that journalism has become a much more dangerous profession in this country in the wake of his murder.”
Please don’t try to fool your “regular” readers because they know that you have commented on several murders/crimes where you didn’t have “unambiguous knowledge” about the accused.

Asif Ali Khan

January 25, 2011 12:14 AM

Anonymous said…
@Asif Ali Khan, well said, dude.

ISI, MQM, DAWN and the Abbas brothers
are holly cows and Cafe Pyala can’t write about them. Everyone knows the reason!

18 Responses to “Cafe Pyala or Cafe Altaf?”

  1. Shahid Saeed’s comment on Cafe Pyala’s post:

    The video confessions are many months old now, and scans of the JIT interrogations made their way online a month+ ago too. Whois lists website registration on July 8 too. Also, a few of the 8 month old JIT reports was covered some months ago by The News too. Biggest reportage came from Weekly Pulse in January. Since The News and before them, Pulse, had access to the entire report, it’s not a matter of “leaking” the report, since it doesn’t seem all that difficult to obtain a copy, but about daring to release them into print. The secret-y nature thing-y from you seems a bit political correctness and nothing else.

    As for covering only the MQM, JIT listed 3 Haqiqi, 2 LeJ, 2 SSP, 1 SeM, 1 ANP, and 18+Pahari from MQM.

  2. It is the same Cafe Pyala blog which writes a full post in defence of Angelina Jolie and Veena Malik but does not even sneeze over silence of Pakistani media on the murder of thousands of Shias in Parachinar and elsewhere!

  3. On cafepyala’s selective morality against Aamir Liaquat Hussain

  4. Cafe Pyala writes: “I don’t subscribe at all to the sectarian twist this video takes towards the end, which is obviously motivated by other concerns.”

    WTF? That’s not the other concerns, that’s the main concern of the doctored video!!

    About Aamir liaquat using abusive language please go to any big MADRASA in all over Pakistan you get more to enhance your vocabulary in abusive language at there.

  5. The article on Newsline and Cafe Pyala against Aamir Liaquat are as disgusting as the clip itself if not more. Detailing the swear words and going to the details such as gestures @… and embedding the video at the bottom to ensure anyone who hasn’t watched it yet, could do so easily. Sick

  6. On Salmaan Taseer’s murder, a sinister role was played by Samad Khurram and Cafe Pyala:

    When cafepyala apologized on the ‘fake fatwa’ from lubp and quoted what samad khurram has been pointing out, it was quite obvious that the chattering class wanted the killing of salmaan taseer to be made diluted.

    I wonder why did cafe pyala so willingly fall into Samad Khurram’s trap to defame LUBP?

    Ain’t they the same who had stated that:

    “Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. Simply put, we can either shut up, resign ourselves to our fate and disconnect from this country and society or we can fight back and refuse to cede the space that the bastards want us to. Nobody ever said it would be easy.

    As a start, let us declare Qadri, all those who support Qadri and murderers like him, the Khatm-e-Nabuwat movement and its ilk as outside the pale of Islam. Let’s see how they like being referred to as blasphemers and murtids. Nobody said the fight would not be dirty.”

    It is evident that as an insider and outsider of Pakistani and international media, their blog is frequently “cited” and “linked” by their very own team members and networked friends in various news reports and columns; their principles of ethics and transparency are for all to see!

    Sunni Forum ki janib se Samad sahib and Cafe Piala ka shurkia. Shame on LUBP, PPP propaganda against Ghazi Mumtaz Qadri…&p=558989

  7. Cafe Pyala usually don’t pick this kinda thing (Bramdaghs’ fake interview in Daily Times). They are careful guys as someon wrote on their blog

    sorry pyaloos, but “the debate” was “defined” a very long time ago by the people who have (for 30 years now) housed, armed and funded your mullah “opponents”.

    how laughable is the idea that you with your dark gray blog are in some kind of opposition to that 50,000-strong crowd of bearded youths.

    and how many of you bloggers (even from within the safety of your ABCD acronyms) dared to point out that this week’s rallies were led by the L-e-T? How many of you will risk your lives, livelihoods and sanity to go one step further and state that the state (military-ISI) is what choreographs the L-e-T?

    You can’t. Because that would amount to accepting that your enemy is the state. In which you live.

    Oh dear.

    You pyaloos should forget about all this liberal-shiberal and sit around a bonfire instead and drink an honest toast to the Pak Fauj, singing: “Gham hai ya khushi hai tu, meri zindagi hai tu…”

  8. cpyala
    Am so happy that @ejazhaider took on Aatish ‘Stranger to Writing’ Taseer 4 his trashy piece in WSJ.

    Aatish Taseer’s claims about Iqbal & Taliban are simply wrong. The rest of his piece flows from a Shining India mindset.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    The media critic blog, @cpyala, now tasked to reinforce urban legends and interpretations about Aatish Taseer’s article? Pak Foj Ko Salam

  9. Here is a complete archive (until this very moment) of tweets on Talat Hussain’s op-ed on Angelina Jolie starting from 24 October when daily Express first tweeted Talat Hussain’s article on Jolie and the LUBP tweeted Saad’s post criticising Talat Hussain.

    The pseudoliberal group on Twitter is visibly in disbelief, shock, saktah, etc using all sorts of foul language against Talat Hussain (while the same mafia remained dumbfounded on articles highlighting Talat Hussain’s connivance with the military establishment):

  10. cpyala
    Zulfiqar Mirza was wrong abt Afaq being biggest “political prisoner” after Zardari. Malik Ishaq beat them both

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @cpyala By comparing a despicable sectarian terrorist to Zardari, you are showing your true colors, MQM online! @saeedshah

  11. Well done for this long awaited post. More power to your pen, Blogzine.

  12. Iqbal Haider endorses Mirza
    News Comments (2)
    IMDAD SOOMRO 11 hours ago | Comments (2)
    KARACHI – Former federal law minister and prominent human rights activist Iqbal Haider endorsed Zulfiqar Mirza’s statements about the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) that he made at Karachi Press Club on Sunday, and said that Mirza had confirmed his point of view that he had been expounding for a long time.
    The senior lawyer, human activist and former senior leader of the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) told Pakistan Today that it was high time for all patriotic Pakistanis, politicians and media to expose the mysterious aims and designs against the integrity and interests of the country and its people without any fear of terrorists or political victimisation.
    “We have suffered already from, and we should get rid of, the politics of dead bodies,” said Haider. “Dr Zulifqar Mirza has confirmed my point of view, which I have been expressing since long,” he added.
    “The MQM from day one is an ethnic organisation and created by military dictator General Zia in his era. It is clearly a separatist organisation and wants to break up Pakistan,” he said. “Altaf Hussain said in 1996 at the birthday of GM Syed at Sindh University Jamshoro… that he would fulfill the programme of GM Syed of breaking up Pakistan and creating Sindhudesh,” he added.
    “In 1986 at Nishtar Park, Altaf Hussain, in a public gathering under the shadow of sophisticated weapons, gave a message to the people to sell their assets. In 1993, when the operation cleanup had started in 1992, the slogan of the MQM was ‘Sindh mai hoga kaisay guzara, adha tumhara adha hamara’ (how will we survive in Sindh, half is yours and half is ours) and at that same time there was also the ‘rule’ that anyone who betrays Altaf Hussain needs nothing less than the punishment of death. Under the same slogan, several people including Azeem Tariq were assassinated and the last target was Imran Farooq, the founding general secretary of the MQM. Several ministers and hardcore activists went underground for fear of getting killed,” said Haider.
    He said there was no example in the world that any leader whose party was in the federal government, provincial government and city government lived outside the country and claimed he would be killed if returned.
    Haider also said the MQM should clarify why the US issues hundreds of visas to its activists.

  13. cpyala Cafe Pyala
    Wrt to a full post (!) about us from agent provocateurs, wanted to say no ‘arguing with idiots’ but discovered that’s Glenn Beck’s book.

    cpyala Cafe Pyala
    Wow. Just saw the troll influx on our timeline after the last post. No arguing with people who can’t – or refuse to – understand nuance.

    cpyala Cafe Pyala
    Faisal Sabzwari reiterated that people should read the “navishta-e-deewaar” (the writing on the wall)…

    cpyala Cafe Pyala
    In all seriousness, really think Zulfiqar Mirza having a nervous breakdown, needs help. Abusive 1 moment crying another, classic symptoms.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Nuance in propaganda? RT @cpyala Just saw the troll influx on our timeline aftr last post. No arguing wid people who can’t understand nuance

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Thanks for the abuse. RT @cpyala Wrt to a full post (!) about us from agent provocateurs, wanted to say no ‘arguing with idiots’…

  14. Racist anti-Pashtun tweet by Cafe Altaf:

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    “@cpyala Accord to Geo report, all khwajasiras will vote for Immybhai too. Or could the projection have been skewed by fact that the… 1/2”

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    Racist tweets by Cafe Jhangvi about Pashtoons! Shame! RT @ cpyala …khwajasira spoken to was named Komal *Afridi*, I wonder? 2/2
    7 Feb Favorite Reply Delete

  15. Karachi_Post ‏ @Karachi_Post Close
    @Laibaah1 yes i have earlier chastised Cpyala for using extremely derogatory language against ethnic minorities.Samad works for JI.

    Laibaah ‏ @Laibaah1 · Open
    @Karachi_Post Review my TL. This cpyala aka Cafe Jhangvi and his mates Shahid Saeed, Samad Khurram etc are racists bastards!

    Laibaah ‏ @Laibaah1 Reply Delete Favorite · Open
    Racist bastards. Shame! @ cpyala Haha. The meeting betw the Lunds and Chutias. RT @ shahidsaeed will take place in loralai, balochistan?
    1h Laibaah ‏ @Laibaah1 Reply Delete Favorite · Open
    Shame racist! MT@cpyala U know what’d b nightmare for Pak English media? If they ever had 2 cover meeting btw Baloch Lunds & Assam’s Chutias

    22h Cafe Pyala ‏ @cpyala Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    @Karachi_Post And please don’t be discriminatory like Facebook.
    In reply to Karachi_Post
    22h Cafe Pyala ‏ @cpyala Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    We aren’t being abusive, honest.And we’re not in parliament RT @Karachi_Post Please refrain frm using Non-parliamentary and abusive language

    Karachi_Post ‏ @Karachi_Post · Open
    @cpyala Please refrain from using Non-parliamentary and abusive language

    Cafe Pyala ‏ @cpyala Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    #FAT alert. RT @titojourno And what if Neeta Lullah designed their clothes?

    Shahid Saeed ‏ @shahidsaeed Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    @cpyala will take place in loralai, balochistan?

    Cafe Pyala ‏ @cpyala Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    You know what would be a nightmare for Pak English media? If they ever had to cover a meeting between the Baloch Lunds and Assam’s Chutias.

    Cafe Pyala ‏ @cpyala Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Apparently Facebook assumed “the accounts to be fake and fabricated.” #ChutiaPower
    23h Cafe Pyala ‏ @cpyala Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    “All Assam Chutia Students’ Union (Aacsu) ..raised serious concern against [the] blocking [of] accounts of thousands of Chutia community…”

    Cafe Pyala ‏ @cpyala Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    The Chutiyas are up in arms against Facebook. No, I mean that very seriously.
    10 Mar Cafe Pyala ‏ @cpyala Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    @tammyhaq One would burst out laughing if this wasn’t so amazingly mentally challenged!


    TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2009

    Picture of the Day
    Consider opening an account here next time…!

    Btw, skeptic that I am, I checked. There is actually a place by this name in Jharkand state. In fact, there is even an Upper and Lower Chutia. I have been ROFLMAO since.


    Ahsan said…
    Oh God. Here I was thinking this blog is excellent before you go ahead and ruin it by using chat acronyms (LOL etc). Ugh.

    NOVEMBER 14, 2009 12:53 PM
    Anonymous said…

    NOVEMBER 14, 2009 3:59 PM
    Akshay said…
    LOL If you can read what’s written in Hindi to the left, you’ll realize that it’s Chutiya with the sound of t as in “Tomato”, and not “Th” as in “Math”,or C***a :P. So it’s not as funny as it could have been. 🙂

    DECEMBER 11, 2010 12:32 AM


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