PB and LUBP douchebags

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pb and lubp douchebags even didn’t have guts to say thing in open leave alone there i.d’s , they attack individuals in there blogs time and again people who are in pakistan and talking about minorities , my message to such douchebags “get a life”, admin can delete my this message if he wants to but i want to deliver the message so posting it here

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  • Sabah HasanAli Abbas Taj and 2 others like this.
    • Atif Mumtaz me too pissed on people who don’t live, don’t plan to live in pak, have very remote, second hand information and still keep criticising every thing, every one in pak.

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    • Salman Idris What’s pb and lupb?

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    • Irfan Qadri I request admin Ali Abbas Taj that this thread should not be deleted. “pb and lubp douchebags” are not beyond criticism.

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    • Irfan Qadri http://criticalppp.com/archives/10623

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      Mr Samad Khurram has sent a critical note lamenting what he describes as the dropping standards of the LUBP blog, and also suggesting that the LUBP be renamed as “the desperate jiyala portal as the agenda clearly is that and nothing else.”
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    • Irfan Qadri http://criticalppp.com/archives/69663

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      Editor’s note: Our long-time friend Earthman, International Professor has writte…See More
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    • Ahmad Waqass As per my info LUBP is not linked to any such institution.. they are PPP guys

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    • Ahmad Waqass What is PB?

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    • Irfan Qadri Pakistan Blogzine https://pakistanblogzine.wordpress.com/

      pakistanblogzine.wordpress.com

      Human Rights Advocacy and Media Watch
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    • Ahmad Waqass Why don’t you give detailed feedback and expose them ?

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    • Irfan Qadri What do think, Hassan Turi?

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    • Ahmad Waqass PB is a Shia voice.. LUBP is general and similarly we have Ahmadia pages along with others.. having different opinion is your right but abusing is not your right

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    • Ali Abbas Taj Al Aufaq is the Ahmedia voice.

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    • Ahmad Waqass Al Ufaq is quite new and run by two guys as part time… we have many old sites.. Ali Abbas Taj

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    • Ahmad Waqass Ahmadiya times is an example

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    • Ali Abbas Taj https://www.facebook.com/groups/jaagpakistanijaag/permalink/348798328504520/

      اٹھے گا جب جمے سرفروشان پڑیں گے دار و رسل کے لالے کوئی نہ ہو گا کے جو بچا لے …See More
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    • Ahmad Waqass ‎Ali Abbas Taj how did you get direct link to post…

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    • Ali Abbas Taj I posted the link above where I have commented praising the bloggers for exposing Shia killing and other zulm. But I do not agree with personal attacks.

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Ali Abbas Taj Let’s define ‘personal attacks’ and then apply on all, across the board. How’s that?

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    • Ali Abbas Taj Attacks on individuals for not covering what you would like them to cover and then abusing them.It should be done, but they way it is done to paint them as sell outs is too much and counter productive.

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎1. Is media criticism = attack? 2. Abuse? Where? Evidence?

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    • Ali Abbas Taj Well clearly what you perceive as criticism is seen as a little more than by those you criticize.Whether it is criticism or abuse does it help? Have those that are subjects of these attacks turned a new leaf and suddenly started covering Shia killing?Especially because you are anonymous you should not be attacking.Many times I want to post and tweet about your posts but I am embarrassed to do it because it may be attacking a friend or two.It is a shame because the piece will usually contain some cutting edge information that I really want to share.

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    • Syed Salman Mohiuddin LUBP & PB in my honest opinion have been very untactful while addressing any of the sensitive issues, they have failed to misrepresent &/or remain silent against the targetted persecution, they have been repeatedly found duly praising the most corrupt human being alive on this planet; Zardari etc etc etc.. a never ending list of offenses

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Ali Abbas Taj In this crowd of silent friends, let us allow a few people to speak on taboo topics even if their voices are bitter. Let’s not misrepresent legitimate criticism of silent mafia as attack or abuse. Or perhaps direct us to some other bloggers who are doing it better so that we could follow their model. Criticizing Javed Chaudhry or Ansar Abbasi is great fun, criticizing our liberal friends when they misrepresent Shias or Ahmadis sufferings is the real test of our integrity and character.

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Syed Salman Mohiuddin Don’t confuse LUBP with PB. PB is independent of party affiliation. By the way did you read this?http://criticalppp.com/archives/tag/criticism-of-ppp

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      A popular Pakistani blog, Let us Build Pakistan (LUBP) describes itself as “critical PPP”. Recently, this blog has posted some articles against Ms. Sherry Rehman who was a close aide of Former prime minister Shaheed Benazir Bhutto. In one of the posts LUBP says: “In 2011, Sherry and pro-establish…
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    • Maula Bux Thadani Dear Ali Abbas Taj, before alleging something, I hope we can atleast agree on some criteria or standards or principles. LUBP is often critisized, yet we encourage others to write to us and publish them. Here is the Tag: http://criticalppp.com/archives/tag/criticism-of-lubp Many people have critisized LUBP including Hamid Mir etc. IMO, this is really not about abuse but something far deeper where people are generally very insecure and cannot handle their work being analysed, critiqued and deconstructed. There are many blogs that are even more anonymous than us yet you have left them out and simply target us. How convinient.

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      A popular Pakistani blog, Let us Build Pakistan (LUBP) describes itself as “critical PPP”. Recently, this blog has posted some articles against Ms. Sherry Rehman who was a close aide of Former prime minister Shaheed Benazir Bhutto. In one of the posts LUBP says: “In 2011, Sherry and pro-establish…
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    • Syed Salman Mohiuddin ‎Irfan: I do understand the difference dear, but since the thread creator mentioned both, hence replied accordingly

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    • Syed Salman Mohiuddin ‎Irfan: yeah I have gone through most of the articles mentioned there and I got your point🙂

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    • Ali Abbas Taj It is hard for me to articulate a standard. That is for you to decide. Having said that. I will continue to read and talk about the blogs.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎Ali Abbas Taj also, our job is not to force anyone; simply to try and hold a mirror. It is the choice of others if they want to be more open to other narratives. We cannot and do not force anyone. You mentioned Shia killing; many of us at LUBP have written that it is Shia genocide. Just because there is intellectual dishonesty and/or callousness wrt this topic, should we stop writting and bury our heads in the sand as well. This is strange sir. If you do not want to share our tweets, that is fine by us. LUBP has many writers and supporters who provide us with free efforts. Dozens of activists have written for LUBP under their name but mostly under pen names due to the anti-establishment nature of their writings. We don’t write on topics for which NGO funding is available, nor do our many writers write on safe topics or place tribalism over principle. We have grown steadily inspite of facing many challenges, threats, blackmails etc. I am just one amongst many and I take my hats off to those comrades who are doing all the hard work at LUBP and keeping up the good fight. Cheers

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Syed Salman Mohiuddin Thank you, Salman. Facts speak for themselves instead of perceptions.

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    • Ali Abbas Taj On the contrary Maula Bux Thadani as you know you are not really MBT, I love your stuff. When it is directly attacking a friend it is hard to share it. Just a fact of life.So if the criticism (attack) can be more palatable it would be appreciated.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎Ali Abbas Taj, here is an article that LUBP published sometime back which might, perhaps help you in understanding that LUBPians are not out to make a name or win a popularity contest. We are not out to issue hollow congratulations to fellow journalists and writers, neither are we out to serve as sycophants to more established authors and share interesting poetry and couplets with friends on facebook or twitter. We are not the one’s one should be turning to if you want the cricket scores or a shahbashi for typically vague and obfuscatory piece of prose:http://criticalppp.com/archives/585762. Being abusive and personal: Often times, LUBP has taken the lead in highlighting crucial issues and taking a stand. For example, we never shed away from boldly and publicly supporting anti-establishment writers and activists whenever it was important to take a stand, e.g., when Kamran Shafi, one of the boldest, most accomplished columnists was attacked by the Deep State’s goons in Wah Cantt, or when Marvi Sirmed was harassed by the Zaid Hamid mafia. Similarly, we have pointed out the anti-Baloch and anti-Shia biases in Ejaz Haider and his shameless apologia for Taliban and Al-Qaeda affiliated militant groups like LeJ.Every time we take a stand or do not obfuscate the glaringly obvious reality of extremism and its main sponsors and apologists, the line of defense has always been to dismiss and straw man our arguments as “personal attacks” and “abuse”. This petty tactic actually harms the cause of those who come out to defend the indefensible as they clearly lack any counter arguments and thus throw around these terms hoping that it would silence, dampen and censor bold critiques. It actually does the opposite and highlights that there are no valid counter arguments. Interestingly, those who accuse us and others of such tactics have double standards that never cease to amaze:Here are some examples of those who have accused us of being “abusive” and “personal”:

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       LUBP editors, writers and supporters are often harassed and falsely accused for engaging in personal attacks, abuse, ISI-tagging and using pen names. Such accusations are also hurled at other bloggers and writers who take a bold, anti-establishment stance (e.g. our friends working for Hazara, Ahmad…
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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎Ali Abbas Taj when you like comments which call us”douche bags”, you are invoking some standard or are standards applicable to LUBP only?? Also, for us the most crucial criteria is the arguement itself. If Hamid Mir or Najam Sethi made an honest, qualified statement, in their name or under a pen name, we will support it. Similarly, if Ejaz Haider, is deconstructed and critiqued in a post sent to LUBP for publishing or published by our growing list of authors, we will NOT apply censorshop simply because some of his friends are offended. I many not agree with some of the content on LUBP but I am not one to decide to curb others or dictate to them what they write. Abuses and threats and blackmails are not our tactics- they are frequently used against us.

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    • Ali Abbas Taj That was not the purpose of the like

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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎Ali Abbas Taj I reiterate, no one is imploring you to share our links. That is your perogative.

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    • Ali Abbas Taj The purpose of the like was the post stays after Irfan Qadri wanted it to stay.

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    • Ali Abbas Taj some of your work is great and your exposure of the ISI sectarian terrorist nexus maybe historic.Still will not support abuse of anyone.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎Ali Abbas Taj that is exactly my point. Everything we publish on LUBP is not liked by 60+ people connected to LUBP! However, we prefer heterogeniety within our group and prefer using arguements to make our point – we encourage our detractors to do the same. Blackmails, threats and false accusations makes THEM look even more weaker.

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Ali Abbas Taj Let’s not abuse the word ‘abuse’ or ‘attack’ please. Unless we have some standard which we are ready to apply across the board, including on our friends.

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    • Ali Abbas Taj What do you mean blackmails/threats? you guys are anonymous in the cloud some where.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎Ali Abbas Taj sir, with all due respect, we never sought out your support or your applause. If you feel that our article text contains abuse, please point out specific examples. If you disagree with us, I invite you to write a post on us and email to editor@criticalppp.com for publishing.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎Ali Abbas Taj some of our contributors and supporters were blackmailed and threatened.

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    • Ali Abbas Taj I am sorry to hear that.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani As for abuse, people do that routinely to us in the comments section and on twitter.

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    • Ali Abbas Taj I was asked if you look at the link above.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani sir, which link?

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    • Ali Abbas Taj ‎//Maula Bux Thadani Ali Abbas Taj Sabah Hasan can you please provide some feedback on this article? Don’t you think that it is incorrect to portray the tragic massacres of Shia Hazaras as an ethnic phenomena; therby separating them from the continual murder of Shias all over Pakistan.
      Saturday at 5:57am //

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Ali Abbas Taj People who have resources (agencies and affiliates) exactly know who is writing what and from where. Anonymous is not really anonymous in today’s world.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani Yes, I did ask you and Sabah to provide feebback? Is that wrong? The feedback could have been positive or negative. or nothing if u chose not to.

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    • Ali Abbas Taj No we would love to help Maula Bux Thadani but here you are saying //Maula Bux Thadani Ali Abbas Taj sir, with all due respect, we never sought out your support or your applause. If you feel that our article text contains abuse, please point out specific examples. If you disagree with us, I invite you to write a post on us and email to editor@criticalppp.com for publishing.
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    • Ali Abbas Taj Seems contradictory

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    • Irfan Qadri By the way, the initiator of the thread is silent.🙂

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    • Ali Abbas Taj No biggie. nuff said. You guys are obviously risking a lot for your passion so I identify with you as I am doing the same.

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    • Syed Salman Mohiuddin I admire their (LUBP & PB) work alot, honestly.. had only read activism thoroughly and really wondered apropos journalism/analysis in Pakistan, not anymore honestly

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    • Hassan Turi To be honest pb and lubp they not only highlight shia genocide but also ahmediya persecution, forcefull hindu conversion to islam, christian accusation of blasphemy but dnt understand why dnt they support drone attacks, and opening of nato supply, means why dnt they critisize usa.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani

      Ali Abbas Taj you have pointed out one instance where I requested for a comment on a topic that IMO, appeared to be of interest to you and Sabah. If that translates to support, then I stand corrected. In the future, I will desist from suchrequests. Having said that, LUBP has been critical of many different segments. When we critisize President Zardari or Rehman Malik (for his insensitive statements and inability) or Babar Awan (for his anti-Ahmadiya muslim comment), no one bothers us – least of all the PPP. When we critisize the right-wing Urdu media and Ansar Abbasi, Hamid Mir types, the attacks if any are direct. However, when we critisize the (pseudo) liberal dons of the English media press or civil society beloveds like Aitzaz (for abaondoning Asma Jehangir during the 2010 SCBA elections) or Sherry Rehman (for spearheading the atrocious Jinnah Institute FP elite paper that calls for accomodating Haqaani Network/ Mullah Omar), the reactions are quite different and at times involve insidious tactics. When our writers and supporters lambast Najam Sethi for his insensitive comments on Pashtuns or Ejaz Haider for his horrifying views on Shia genocide, then it is LUBP that is attacked.
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    • Ali Abbas Taj You are welcome to ask Maula Bux Thadani and welcome here. We would love to support your efforts not because you ask.Sometimes some personal comments are not appreciated. That is all.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎Ali Abbas Taj , so now we are down to lack of appreciation😉. LUBP can live with that.

    • Maula Bux Thadani Hassan Turi read this http://criticalppp.com/archives/40445 and this http://criticalppp.com/archives/75161 If there is anthing you want to write on, please do ahead and submit to editor@criticalppp.com for publishing consideration.

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      An open letter to President Obama: If there is any country where the USA can install democracy without a single bullet fired, it is Bahrain
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    • Maryam Sadiq I don’t have a problem with lubp or pb links in general, they’re pretty incisive and it helps to get an alternative point of view.

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    • Maula Bux Thadani

      Syed Salman Mohiuddin, thanks for your support. I am humbled and will pass it on to the group. We try our best. PB has come in fairly recently but they have been very impressive and I like their site and admire their activists on social me…See More
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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Maula Bux Thadani Syed Salman Mohiuddin Ali Abbas Taj Thanks to all of you for appreciating PB.

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Maula Bux Thadani Notwithstanding our principled criticism of PPP, we will keep supporting LUBP in its leading, bold stance on human rights in Pakistan.

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    • Munnazir Aziz the people and admins of this group can share whatever they want and they have there own editorial judgement , and one above comment says that pb and lubp is voice of shias i don’t agree on that, you cannot be thekaydars of any thing , the people with hidden i.d’s can’t gain any thing

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    • Munnazir Aziz and these guys are trying to fool people by camouflaging themselves as champions of shia rights , i will say it again douchebags i am not one who hide behind fake i.d’s , my full information is on net and can be get by just few clicks, i am not one who just talk and do nothing , i am a person living in pakistan who say everything with his own i.d and voice ,

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    • Munnazir Aziz and i give a dam about you good for nothing losers of pb and lubp😉, i just wanted to convey message and that’s what i did, Ali Abbas Taj thanks for keeping my post, its nice from you as always, i appreciate your efforts for every thing

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    • Sabah Hasan Voice of Shias are those who have the courgae to OPENLY speak for Tashayyu.

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    • Atif Mumtaz how brave anonymous , fake ids call others to speak out, call name to others, call sell outs, agents etc.

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    • Munnazir Aziz ‎Sabah Hasan i respect your view and you are rite about it , but pb and lubp are not the ones in my view , i am being in this group of jpj from long time , why no one here put tag on me as “promoting shia killings” “isi stooge” etc etc ,why people who didn’t even communicate with me frequently put tags on me that’s funny, but i have no concern from jpj , they are doing a great job and should keep on doing that ,

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    • Sabah Hasan ‎Munnazir Aziz, “openly” would include not being pseudonymous.

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    • Irfan Qadri Voices of Shias and Sunnis and all Pakistanis are those who are voted in, not those who are universally rejected by Pakistanis, e.g., TJP in the past and MWM in the future.

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    • Irfan Qadri Are we seeing a JPJ version of MMA? A self-assumed “voice of Shia” allying with an apologist of Jhangvi. Life is never ending entertainment.

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    • Munnazir Aziz tsk tsk tsk people such have limited horizon and brain that they cannot even think properly ,

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    • Hassan Turi jpj is not a shia group

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    • Maula Bux Thadani

      We never claimed to be champions or sole representatives of anyone – be they Shia, Sunni, Ahmadi, Pashtun, Baloch etc. Nonetheless, thank you for your principled, objective and non-abusive critique Munnazir🙂. You have clearly shown to Ali Abbas Taj on who needs to rely on abuse and who on arguement.Irfan Qadri , in Pakistan’s history, the public, Sunni, Shia, Christain, Ahmadi have always rejected clerics – especially those clerics who are tainted with financial corruption allegations of Zakat and Khums.
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    • Munnazir Aziz ‎Maula Bux Thadani yes dear i am not the one who will take step back , i stand by my statement on what i said about lubp and pb ok, and wow what a logic i am amazed sir , ha ha ha its good to live in ignorance like people who are running lubp and pb

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    • Maula Bux Thadani ‎@Irfan, you are being very harsh on MWM – they will take out a rally against the Saudi consulate as well and block it too; just like they will block Aabpara. Otherwise, it would be moral selectivism.

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    • Irfan Qadri I openly challenge Munnazir Aziz : Do you condemn Shia genocide in Pakistan by Saudi-funded, ISI-backed ASWJ-SSP-Taliban terrorists? (see him running like a fox!)

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    • Maula Bux Thadani On the contrary Munnazir, please don’t take a stand back. Please continue to say what you are saying. We must be doing something rigth if we managed to elicit such an articulate and passionate response from you.

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    • Munnazir Aziz ‎Irfan Qadri i don’t want dictation from a coward who hide behind fake i.d;s to condemn killings of innocent people, people on this forum know my stand on shia killings , isi etc ,

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    • Sabah Hasan وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى الْأَرْضِ هَوْنًا وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ الْجَاهِلُونَ قَالُوا سَلَامًا

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Munnazir Aziz Are you not the one who used to rationalize Shia genocide in Pakistan by referring to (an imaginary) Sunni genocide in Iran? Run, fox, run!

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    • Irfan Qadri وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى الْأَرْضِ هَوْنًا وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ الْجَاهِلُونَ قَالُوا سَلَامًا

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    • Munnazir Aziz ‎Irfan Qadri urf laibaah urd abudul nishpuri i didn’t justify shia killings , and on my vision of iran this group admins and people know my stand and they are ok with it , so any other fire missed dear :>,

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    • Munnazir Aziz ‎Irfan Qadri coward first have the balls to come up real and face the music , so easy to hide behind fake i.d’s and portrays one self as champion of rights

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Munnazir Aziz Your abuses and personal attacks aside, you still don’t answer my question. Do you still rationalize Shia genocide in Pakistan by referring to Sunni genocide in Iran? Try to be reasonable, for a change.

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    • Munnazir Aziz what abuse ? i answer a baseless blog of pb here which admins of this group allow and i can see clearly that reach its target :> , Irfan Qadri no dictation from a coward person as i said ,

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    • Irfan Qadri ‎Munnazir Aziz LOL One persons who keeps reciting Quran when he is short of logic Sabah Hasan likes Munnazir’s comment in which he said: “Irfan Qadri coward first have the balls to come up real and face the music”. Hypocrisy of mullahs!

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    • Munnazir Aziz and now i am out if this debate , thanks Ali Abbas Taj Sabah Hasan for allowing me to give my point of view and giving it space ,
      • Sabah Hasan

        You are most welcome, Munnazir Aziz :)A personal attack needs to be resorted to when one is bereft of logic, and is usually unworthy of being dignified with a response.I pray for the guidance of any Muslim who is irritated by the verses of the Holy Qura’an and who would see the Word of Allah, naudbillah thumma naudbillah, as “short of logic.” However, I praise and thank Allah that he Reveals the hidden realities in His own ways:
        وَمَكَرُوا وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ
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      • Irfan Qadri وَمَكَرُوا وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

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      • Irfan Qadri Iqbal said for such mullahs: khud badaltay nahin Quran ko badal detay hain / huay kis drajah faqihan-e-haram bay taufeeq

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          Mustafa N. Ahmad

          I am entering this debate too late but as someone totally impartial. I think PB and LBBP are the sanest voices (or probably the only sane voices) emerging from the Pakistani media right now. I am saying this despite the fact that almost every journalist they have ever criticized has been a friend or at least a collegaue. I agree with their judgement in each single case with the exception of Beena Sarwar, since I know for a fact that she cannot be co-opted or bought. Still, I have no problem with her being criticized on account of topics she decides not to write on. If everyone starts giving concessions to friends, we would have only public relationing not journalism. Morerover, if governments can be criticized for actions as well as inactions, why can’t journalists?
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          • Sabah Hasan

            Mustafa N. Ahmad, if such personal attacks (“One persons who keeps reciting Quran when he is short of logic”) in social media are examples of “sanest voices (or probably the only sane voices) emerging from the Pakistani media”, then let’s pray that insanity prevails around us :)For those referring to me with the epithet “mullah” derisively, let me submit that though it would have been a great privilege to be worthy of a title that befits worthies like Mulla Sadra, as my Facebook profile indicates, I am only a business student and a former banker, though obviously like any other person interested in knowing about Islam, I have read the Holy Qura’an, and take the opportunity to remind myself of its words from time to time. I hope this level of attention to basics is not indicative of the general level of jouranlistic input of my attacker😀

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          • Sabah Hasan Thankfully I am the one who has quoted the Holy Qura’an, not the one who has attacked it as, naudbillah thumma naudbillah, being “short of logic”.

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          • Irfan Qadri LOL. Criticize a mullah and he will allege you have attacked the Quran. Sheer dishonesty, fatwa bazi and mullahs go hand in hand. As Iqbal said: deen-e-mullah fi sabilillah fasad (Taseer too was killed by similar bigots who alleged he was gustakh-e-rasool only because he criticized mullahs.)
            • Sabah Hasan Calling quoting of Qura’an as an act “short of logic” is attacking the Qura’an …. one may laugh out loud on this act, but as Allah says: وَمَكَرُوا وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

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            • Irfan Qadri You were short of logic, not the Quran. You were criticized, not the Quran. Please re-read, don’t misinterpret like the mullahs who decreed Taseer to be killed.

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