Raja Nasir Abbas of MWM and nation’s mazloom daughter Aafia

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ڈاکٹر عافیہ صدیقی اس وطن کی بیٹی ہے ھم علی کے ماننے والے ہیں اور مظلوم کے ساتھ ہیں ھم بھر پور مطالبہ کرتے ہیں کہ اس وطن کی بیٹی کو واپس لایا جائے۔
ناصر ملت علامہ راجہ ناصر عباس جعفری کا قرآن و سنت کانفرنس سے خطاب

Source: https://www.facebook.com/PoliticalShiaPakistan/posts/10150900820283059

عافیہ صدیقی کے حوالے سے بات کرتے ہوئے علامہ ناصر عباس جعفری کا کہنا تھا کہ اگر عافیہ صدیقی ہندو بھی ہوتی تو بھی ہم اس کی حمایت کرتے۔ اس وطن کی بیٹی کو ڈالروں کے عوض فروخت کیا گیا، اسے جلد واپس لایا جائے

Source: http://www.islamtimes.org/vdcgun9qyak9u74.,0ra.html

What a foolish remark. Dr. Aafia Siddiqi is the spiritual mother and inspirer of ASWJ-Taliban suicide bombers who are killing Shias (and others). She is a Zalim, not Mazloom, she is a supporter of Zaliman/Taliban.

4 Comments to “Raja Nasir Abbas of MWM and nation’s mazloom daughter Aafia”

  1. Shami Shaikh

    Bhai Pooray Pakistan mai MAsoom log baygunah Maray ja rahay hain un ki ksi ko Parwah nahi.

    agr koi is Mulak ki behen hay to wo Afia Sadiqqui hay lolz.

    yay jahil soch hay Mullah ki

    Irfan Qadri
    http://criticalppp.com/archives/988

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    Shami Shaikh
    Taliban ki baiti hay ya Is ko Pakistan ki baiti mat kaha karain plz

    Hafiz Abdullah
    shami bhai that is not good . agr tairi behan pkri jati to pher mai tm say pochta han baita sari awam keo hrtal kray wo tairi behan hai sb ki nhe , shame on u and on ur think

    Qaiser Hussain Turi
    Whoever she is, she is a Pakistani and if she did anything wrong she must be punished in Pakistan by Pakistan. The way she is handed over to US is something that cannot be justified.

    Hafiz Abdullah
    usnay koi glat kam nhe kia gr usnay kisi musalman ki madad ki hai to ismai burai konsi hai . kia hm apnay behan bhaio , rishta daro aur mehla daro aur apnay jananay walo ki madad nhe krtay jb wo museebat mai hotay hai aur agr usnay kr di to is mai burai konsi hai .

    Shami Shaikh ‎
    Hafiz Abdullah pehlay jo baki Main behnain hain na jo k Roz Mao k baitay Karachi mai marhay hain. Jo k Humarai pak Army k jawano ko taliban marhay hain pta nahi kitni Mao ki Godain ujarhi hain un ki fikar kro un k samnay is ki Koi Okat nahi

    Shami Shaikh
    ‎1 Afia Siddiqui k liay Pooray Pakistan ko Dao pay laga do yay hay Baywakoof Mullah ki soch

    Sajjad Changezi
    typical stuff

    Asif Mall
    An eye opening interview by Aafia Siddiqui’s husband: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmJ1Ha7SoyU

    Dr Afia Siddiqui Husband Interview By Rabiah Baig Feb 18, 2009

    Dr Afia Siddiqui Husband Interview By Rabiah Baig Feb 18, 2009 For GEO NEWS

    Ali Abbas Taj
    ‎Mwm Lahore congrats on your super Tsunami yesterday. I think you or Sabah Hasan should weigh in on this discussion.

    Sabah Hasan
    Thanks, Ali, congratulations to you and to all peace loving Pakistanis.

    What Allama Raja Nasir said is factually incorrect insofar as Dr. Siddiqui is not a Pakistani – a nationality she forsook when opting to become an American in the early 1990s – and, therefore, not “watan ki beti” for Pakistanis.

    However, this sentence is quoted here out of context. His theme in saying this was that we shall be with the ‘mazloom’ irrespective of who s/he is, and to whichever faith s/he belongs. Not many of us will disagree with that theme, or so I hope.

    Irfan Qadri Sources:
    ڈاکٹر عافیہ صدیقی اس وطن کی بیٹی ہے ھم علی کے ماننے والے ہیں اور مظلوم کے ساتھ ہیں ھم بھر پور مطالبہ کرتے ہیں کہ اس وطن کی بیٹی کو واپس لایا جائے۔
    ناصر ملت علامہ راجہ ناصر عباس جعفری کا قرآن و سنت کانفرنس سے خطاب https://www.face
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    Political Shia – Pakistan
    ڈاکٹر عافیہ صدیقی اس وطن کی بیٹی ہے ھم علی کے ماننے والے ہیں اور مظلوم کے ساتھ ہ…

    Sabah Hasan
    ‎^ As I said above, this sentence is quoted out of context. I have tried to state the context – that I heard live – above.

    Irfan Qadri
    Is the speech available online? I’m sure it will be uploaded soon. I too heard it live and want other people to hear it too to make an assessment of his statement on Aafia. Raza Rizvi Syed Ali Irtiza Ali Abbas Taj

    Sabah Hasan
    It was live streamed on http://mwmpak.org/live and will hopefully be available on Youtube in a day or two.

    Raza Rizvi
    اگر عافیہ صدیقی ہندو بھی ہوتی تو بھی اس کی حمایت کرتے۔ اس وطن کی بیٹی کو ڈالروں کے عوض فروخت کیا گیا ہے، اسے جلد واپس لایا جائے۔

    ye kaha than jaha tak main ne suna….

    Irfan Qadri
    ‎Raza Rizvi Thank you. Aafia is neither a mazloom nor a watan ki beti. She is a committed helper of those who are killing innocent people in Pakistan and elsewhere.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    It is a very strange thing that instead of seeing things in totality knit picking is being done. A by the way sympathetic remark seems to be presented like a focal point of Raja Sahib’s speech. What is the point being made? If it is that A Siddiqi is not a mazlooma, well many of us think so, but surely Raja Sahib can have an independent opinion on something. It is his effort in entirety that is to be considered.

    Syed Salman Mohiuddin
    bus isi ki kami reh gai thee.. chalo yeh bhi achcha hai, pata to chal raha hai ki script kahan likha jaraha ha
    about an hour ago ·

    Syed Irshad Hussain
    There is always different views of one issue, even Dr.Aafia is criminal in our eye’s but we should not allowed others nation to treat with our peoples like this, we have our judiciary , law enforcement and all things should be prove here not in USA, Secondly she is woman , and a Muslim can’t bear that a Muslim woman in the custody of USA, Thirdly the illigation on her that she is supporter of Taliban are made by our enemies and we have to investigate in our own system , if she is guilty then she should be punished here. and sorry to say that many of our Naional institutions had also helped Taliban why not punish them all , specially America has created and helped these people ??/

    Qaiser Hussain Turi ‎
    Irfan Qadri gave the verdict already, no further arguments please.
    about an hour ago ·

    Sabah Hasan
    ‎^ 🙂

    Irfan Qadri
    ‎Qaiser Hussain Turi Good argument.

    Irfan Qadri
    ‎Syed Salman Mohiuddin No surprises here 🙂 By the way, enjoy the apologia.

    Syed Ali Irtiza
    I was already expecting this and made it clear on the same group a few days ago.

    Qaiser Hussain Turi
    Objectivity have lost its place in Pakistan, Whether its Islamists or Liberals, their opinions are biased.

    Sajjad Changezi
    MWM and Raja Nasir Abbas sing the DPC-song of #Ghairat, #QaumkiBeti #DrAafiya albeit its #Shia-version by adding “Hum Ali waley hain” !!

    Qaiser Hussain Turi
    If I am supposed not to trust the stories regarding Aafia written by Jamat e Islami , why should Itrust those written by Nadeem F Paracha or other liberals ?

    Qaiser Hussain Turi
    And fighting US forces and as a matter of fact any foreign occupying forces is not a sin, she did a great job if she went their to fight US.

    Irfan Qadri
    Of course, in fact she did a great job by fighting with the occupying forces. Shame on Nadeem Paracha and other Amreeki Pithoo liberals.

    Syed Ali Irtiza ‎
    Qaiser Hussain Turi You are not supposed to blindly believe people or groups, whether Jamaat Islami or liberals. There is a rarity called human reason, and more importantly facts.

    And I am glad you have said that you support Aafia Siddiqui and Taliban. You have vindicated our stance that your leaders support Taliban and Al Qaeda at the behest of their common masters.

    Qaiser Hussain Turi
    My leader ? How do you know who is my leader ? and I don’t really care what you think about me, I support Aafia Siddiqui unless you provide evidence that she did anything wrong.

    Qaiser Hussain Turi
    Show me any human reasons and facts among our society. As I said earlier, there’s no objectivity left, all are biased.

    Syed Ali Irtiza
    Not only Aafia Siddiqui, but even Malik Ishaq is innocent.

    In fact, why don’t you start calling her Aafia Khomeini?

    Irfan Qadri
    Apparently Qaiser Hussain Turi does not treat all the published information on Aafia’s association with the Taliban as credible evidence. Well, he is entitled to his opinion as are Raja Nasir Abbas and other Shia and Sunni Jayyad Ulama.

    Qaiser Hussain Turi
    These are the facts and human reasons you were talking about ? Wow, I’m amazed.
    What similarity is there between the two you mentioned ?

    Syed Irshad Hussain
    we are misinterpreting things , Raja Nasir said that even Hindu, and non-muslim of Pakistan should not be handed over to USA, its against pakistan dignity, and it is clear stance when you are living in Pakistan and announcing in political process then it should be, tomorrow america will want some more Pakistani then what should we do , to hand them to US. Anyone living in Pakistan , shia , sunni, christian, hindu, all are Pakistanies, and being Pakistani we should protect them, if they are guilty then they should be prosecuted here in Pakistan only.

    Syed Irshad Hussain
    Syed Syed Ali Irtiza bhai , just read the last name of Qaisar Hussain , He belong to Turi tribe and better know Taliban and Molvi Ishaq and has courage to face them as we are facing bravely in last 5 years and has given great sacrifices , but he is talking on principals not supporting Aafia or Taliban,

    Syed Ali Irtiza ‎
    Syed Irshad Hussain Nothing personal. I don’t want to get personal, and names and surnames prove nothing.

    Irfan Qadri
    Nothing is being misinterpreted here. Things are only becoming more transparent.

    Syed Irshad Hussain
    ya bravery is not only to post on Facebook but to confront Taliban and AL-Qaida, as we people from parachinar doing,in 5 years more than 3200 shahadatein, it is not easy , but please not use the name of Imam Khumeini in such a way , this is my request…

    Irfan Qadri
    It’s interesting how the discussion has drifted from denial (allegation of out of context misinterpretation of Raja Nasir’s remarks) to implicit, then blatant support for Aafia.

    aagy aagay dekhiay…

    12 hours ago · Edited · Like · 1
    Syed Irshad Hussain Ok Irfan Qadri , Instead to give mubarakbad to MWM for arranging such a great gathering , you people only trying to show the people that they are supporter of Taliban? ?? lets see what next you people will do to disunite the nation,
    12 hours ago · Like · 2

    Irfan Qadri ‎Syed Irshad Hussain What do you mean by “you people”.

    I see… this is all my fault.

    This is getting interesting.

    Syed Irshad Hussain
    My brother why not we taking the positive points of the conference, why only engaging people in such baseless discussions? There were talks about shia rights, talks about unity of matami, zakereen, ullma, students, why not appreciating them…. I am not against you but in this time only to appreciate all those who gathered the people under the Alam-e-Abbas.

    Irfan Qadri
    ‎Syed Irshad Hussain I am not a Shia. However, Shia brothers and sisters have my full support against persecution and genocide they are facing at the hands of ASWJ/Taliban/ISI.

    This, however, does not mean that leaders including MWM leaders should not be independently assessed based on their public statements and conference speeches.

    Asif Mall
    This video seems to suggest that she was arrested in Ghazni by the Afghan security forces; if true then we are discussing a straw man arguement that Pakistan handed her over to USA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imfVVbvUG2M

    Dr Aafia Saddiqui in Ghazni, Afghanistan
    http://www.youtube.com
    The alleged alqaeda operative MIT graduate Dr Aafia Saddiqui being grilled by Af…
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    Asif Mall
    What we shall do with the statements of Aafia’s husband about her?http://misskelly.typepad.com/miss_kelly_/2009/02/aafias-exhusband-speaks-out-2-most-press-reports-are-false.html

    Miss Kelly : Aafia’s Ex-Husband Speaks Out – 2) Most Press Reports are False
    misskelly.typepad.com
    Continuation of post below. The ex-husband of captured terrorist supporter Affia…
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    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    Irshad Hussain, brother please don’t waste your time on this link in clarifying things, always remember one thing a very good try for lessening the value of any thing big and momentous is taking things out of their context, blowing them out of proportion and harping upon them. Concentrate on the message of the rally u people living in Pakistan have to do a lot of work, please don’t dissipate your energies.

    Sabah Hasan
    I had the good fortune to be at the venue for 9 hours, and though it was very hot and humid as compared to my air-conditioned bedroom from where I am writing this on my laptop, I loved the spirit of intra-Shia unity and feelings of unity towards all other Pakistanis, that were visible in the crowd. I was elated by the speeches of well-known orators like Shaukat Raza Shaukat and Gulfam Hashmi, as well as those of Maulana Hasan Zafar Naqvi and MWM Secretary General Raja Nasir Abbas who, unlike me, is literally a mujahid who has suffered physical loss in the struggle for the rights of Pakistanis.

    Thanks to all those who were there in body or in spirit.

    I respect the right of all who have an opinion different from that of the MWM or of Pakistani Shias in general, to have and propagate that opinion. That, after all, is what we liberals call democracy, don’t we?

    Thanks again for your interest in the phenomenon called MWM.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    Asif Mall my request to you is yes Afia Siddiqi is what she is you are right, but a positive person like you should also study and contribute to the real message of the rally.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    Qaiser Hussain Turi, please don’t even try to explain your point of view on a thread where people can see your last name and equate you with evil Taleban. I salute the Turis and people of Parachinar and Mazloomeen of Kurram Agency for the way they have stood up to the Taleban and agencies inspite of the massacres they have had to face.

    Ali Abbas Taj
    ‎Asif Mall and others criticize because they are genuine well wishers. There is a valid point to at least downplay the anti America pro Iran rhetoric for the moment and focus on Shia genocide.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    AAT at the moment it is not a question of Iran, Iraq, Lebanon or any other country the question is of the survival of Pakistan and Pakistani Shias’ massacre.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    So let us start a thread with’ Pakistan banaya hai Pakistan bachain gay.’ Sabah Hasan u were there something positive?

    Sabah Hasan ‎
    Ali Abbas Taj, as I said above, i respect everyone’s right to his opinion, which s/he will express the way s/he has been trained to …. that is not the point. As I said, the jalsa went on for 9 hours, mainly concentrating on Shia genocide and ALL its reasons, including naming those who created the evil terrorists. Qaiser Hussain Turi, you are one of the most forthright persons I have had the opportunity to have discussions with. I have loved your criticism on MWM (elsewhere, not on JPJ) as it was criticism for the purpose of improvement, not for the sake of criticism or abuse. Keep it up.

    Sabah Hasan ‎Durre-Shahwar Jafri, there is another thread that I initiated here on JPJ about the ‘political road-map’ for Pakistani Shias. That thread is yet to attract much attention 🙂

    Masoom Asgher
    ‎Shami Shaikh bro is right ..but bhai ..hum apni masjidon mein thousands logo ko maar dein ..usski koi takleef nahi aur america ek ko maar dey to thats gunaah-e-kabeera … its called hyporicy .. kaafir kaafir shia kaafir keh ker aaap logo ko bus se utaar se maar do thats okay for us .. but koi ek gunahgaar hote hui america mein marr jaye to america ki aisi ki tesi ….
    3 hours ago · Like · 1

    Syed Salman Mohiuddin
    when convicted criminals are considered “mulk-o-qaum kay azeem bachay” & pride for nation, no wonder we are given special treatment & are discriminated..

    Syed Salman Mohiuddin
    I found it an excellent response:
    @Darveshh: The MWM’s turning into another DPC will be thoroughly unfortunate with finding imaginary ‘enemies’ like Yahood o Nasara.
    @Darveshh: Clearly identify your enemies like SSP-LeJ and their masters in this country , not CIA/Mossad (and KFC).

    Asif Mall
    Aafia was in the process of renouncing her Pakistaniyat by applying for US citizenship; though this much concern for her and none for another ‘forgotton beti of Pakistan’ called Asiya Bibi who is rotting in prison due to bigoted & false acc…
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    Sabah Hasan
    Actually, Asif, she had renounced it in early 1990s as I have mentioned above. However, that does not mitigate cruelty perpetrated on her, if any. It was the ‘zulm’ that was objected to in the speech of Secretary General of MWM. As I submitted, I, for one, would respect one’s right to his/her opinion if s/he disagreed with the opinion of MWM SG.
    36 minutes ago · Like

    Irfan Qadri
    Is this true as reported in The News: two leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, Ahsan Rasheed and Air Martial (retd) Shahid Zulfiqar were sitting at the Lahore Conference’s stage?
    22 minutes ago · Like

    Sabah Hasan
    Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was a convicted criminal who was hanged to death. So was Bhagat Singh. Many consider them “azeem supoot of the qaum.” I, however, respect the right of those who do not.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    So what if they were? All the political party members were welcome as long as they were Pakistanis.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    Sabah Hasan i think all patriotic Pakistanis were welcome, at the MWM rally am i right?
    18 minutes ago · Like · 1

    Irfan Qadri
    ‎Durre-Shahwar Jafri Are you MWM’s spokesperson? Is MWM beyond criticism?

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    No i am not and i never said so, open invitation is a general knowledge derived from the posters of rally.

    Irfan Qadri
    So the invitees are placed on stage notwithstanding the open knowledge that they are avowed partners of ASWJ, DPC and ISI’s new kid on the block?

    Sabah Hasan
    ‎Durre-Shahwar Jafri, it was an open invitation …. and we were not there to determine patriotism of any Pakistani.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    Anyway Mr. Qadri i am a Shia who has lost many friends, cousins and compatriots in Shia killings, and i support those who are working sincerely to do something about it.

    Syed Irshad Hussain
    Irfan Qadri , as you told you are not shia, and MWM is mainly shia party , yes you have right to criticize but not to insult MWM leadership , everyone has their own programs, better you suggest Munawar Hassan, Fazal Rehman and others , THis was open gathering and all pakistanies were invited.

    Sabah Hasan
    Leadership of all political and religious parties that are not engaged in terrorism were invited. Those who attended shared the stage with MWM leadership and other speakers.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri,
    Syed Irshad Hussain, I do not think we are being able to have a constructive dialogue on this thread. I bid adieu.

    Irfan Qadri
    Irshad, If I can criticize Sunni and secular parties, why should I spare MWM from criticism? This is getting interesting.

    Syed Irshad Hussain
    Brothers becarefull on social media some planted people trying to make u disunite, as some parties like has concerned of their shia voters, because it will difficult for them to attract shia votes if shia are united, so they will try their best to not make u united.. please carefull

    Irfan Qadri
    Of course, be careful of Amreeki, Zionist, Indian plants, Raymond Davis types and other Jasoos.

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    Sabah Hasan ‘Aap bhi 1 2 3 kehnay say baaz nahi aatay

    Durre-Shahwar Jafri
    Chalo koi aur achi baat karain kaheen aur

  2. two leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, Ahsan Rasheed and Air Martial (retd) Shahdi Zulfiqar sitting at the stage, http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-5-117908-New-party-warns-GHQ-Presidency-of-siege

  3. i want to join thz league

  4. allam sahab is harami insan k sath kia kar rahe he

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